09.12.2007

VanceS contributed 192 messages, 1 emote during 163 minutes. 2007.12.09 03:54:42 Login Room: VirtualVance VanceS joined the room. VanceS left the room. Room: TI_Reception VanceS joined the room. DennisOl joined the room. DennisOl: Hey, Vance. VanceS: hey dennis VanceS: I was looking away for a moment DennisOl: How's by you? VanceS: busy, tired, the usual VanceS: and you? DennisOl: Some things never change, eh? DennisOl: About the same. DennisOl: Except for one thing. VanceS: ah DennisOl: I'm no longer teaching. VanceS: oh DennisOl: Not many people know that. VanceS: I didn\t DennisOl: Yes, I'm still on medical leave, and I reached the point where "protection" for my job ceased . . DennisOl: so I had three choices: DennisOl: 1. return to work as usual DennisOl: 2. return to work with "accommodations" DennisOl: 3. resign DennisOl: I couldn't return as usual because I still need supplemental oxygen much of the time. DennisOl: For my particular job, there weren't really any "accommodations"--like admin work or teaching 100% online. VanceS: sounds like you resigned? DennisOl: So that left only one option: resign. DennisOl: Yep. VanceS: gosh, and how are you carrying on now/ DennisOl: But things are OK because I get a monthly benefit check due to medical leave. When that ends, I'll retire. DennisOl: So I'm carrying on OK. VanceS: i'm almost 60 and having seen my parents out recently I'm coming to realize that status quo is never permanent DennisOl: For sure. DennisOl: It's a strange realization, isn't it? VanceS: not sure what I'll do in the situation you're in DennisOl: I mean, for much of our lives we think we're invincible and we push, push, push to get to wherever we want to be. DennisOl: You would manage just fine. It's just another kind of multi-tasking, another way of looking at a situation and figuring out how to make things work out. VanceS: that's exactly my plan VanceS: glad to hear it's potentially viable DennisOl: So you will manage just fine, whatever happens. DennisOl: Definitely! DennisOl: I find online work especially interesting now. DennisOl: Oddly enough, I was hired for my former job because of the background I had in technology-assisted learning . . . . VanceS: how are you making it support you? DennisOl: but the way my job was structured, I didn't actually get to use it the way I wanted it to. DennisOl: At the moment, it's not supporting me at all. DennisOl: And I found out last week that I could get a paying online job, but if I did, I'd have to forfeit 50% of what I earned because of restrictions in the medical leave. RickRo joined the room. RickRo: Hi guys! DennisOl: I'm going to switch to other topics now. DennisOl: Hey, Rick. Tudo bem? RickRo: Esta otimo! E com voce? DennisOl: Otimo, no. Bem, sim! VanceS: hey rick VanceS: long time no collaborate RickRo: I know, I know.... Will you be at the AUC conference in January by any chance? RickRo: Cairo? VanceS: when in January? DennisOl: AUC? Wow! VanceS: I'll be in Sudan, of all places VanceS: from Jan 6 DennisOl: So near and yet so far, eh? VanceS: insha'allah RickRo: week of the 16th DennisOl: So how long will you be in Sudan, Vance. VanceS: it would be possible BUT RickRo: Sudan, sounds really interesting DennisOl: What's happening at the AUC, Rick? VanceS: I was thinking to pop to Thailand for the TALO event RickRo: Big conference VanceS: http://wikieducator.org/FLNW2 RickRo: you have got to love world travellers--just pop over to Thailand.... VanceS: there will be a lot of people there I respect highly VanceS: so I'm thinking seriously about it DennisOl: Sounds like a wonderful opportunity, Vance. VanceS: I didn't realize AUC, is that EgypTesol? VanceS: Sudan is something for Hala: http://www.homestead.com/prosites-vstevens/files/efi/papers/sudan2007/web20workshop.htm RickRo: The conf is at http://www.aucegypt.edu/conferences/eflconf but it isn't official tesol RickRo: whoops, dead link that... DennisOl: The workshop in Sudan looks really good, Vance. Will remote participation be possible? VanceS: you bet DennisOl: Wonderful! I hope to take part, then! VanceS: is that the english skills conference, rick? DennisOl: Rick: Did you find a link to the UAC conference? DennisOl: I looked from the UAC entry page, but couldn't find anything--only a big conference on using nanocomposites. VanceS: I think I gave a plenary at that one a few years back RickRo: nods RickRo: This'll be my first trip to Egypt VanceS: super VanceS: are you a diver? RickRo: I like to snorkel; I have been thinking about certified again to dive. I learned how then never did it.... RickRo: Of course, we have diving here in Aqaba too VanceS: a great tour of Egypt would be train down to Luxor VanceS: pop over to Hurghada for diving VanceS: not far that RickRo: How much time would I need.... Is the snorkeling any good? VanceS: ferry to Sinai and Sharm El Sheikh VanceS: bus or plane back to Cairo VanceS: the water is clear and reefs teeming with life RickRo: sounds great! How far off shore are the reefs? VanceS: reefs line the shore VanceS: dive boats tend to go offshore RickRo: Will it be warm enough in January without wetsuits? VanceS: nooo VanceS: cold RickRo: brrrr VanceS: yep VanceS: take sweaters RickRo: waterproof ones? {:-{} VanceS: if you're planning on snorkeling in them, perhaps RickRo: that might work. I have a full body suit wet suit of sorts.... VanceS: you can rent there DennisOl: Rick: I'm still trying to find info on your event at the AUC. What's the official name of it? RickRo: sounds very tempting.... I won't have but a few extra days this trip, but can always return. VanceS: for a few days, Luxor overnight by train VanceS: what kind of talk are you giving? VanceS: Dennis were you here last week? RickRo: I am not sure where the site is, seems to be down. Here's the topic--THE THIRTEENTH SKILLS CONFERENCE RickRo: INTEGRATING SKILLS RickRo: “LITERACIES IN CONTEXT: RickRo: IMPLICATIONS FOR STUDENTS, TEACHERS AND EDUCATIONAL SYSTEMS” RickRo: CALL FOR PARTICIPATION RickRo: Tuesday 15th January – Thursday 17th January, 2008 RickRo: School of Continuing Education RickRo: The American University in Cairo VanceS: I'm having problems connecting to gmail at the moment VanceS: unusual RickRo: I'm doing something on materials development; I just did a series of workshops in Ramallah and Israel on online tools, though. VanceS: how did you find it there? DennisOl: Did you by any chance meet Elaine Hoter in Israel, Rick? BillC joined the room. DennisOl: Hey, Bill. BillC: hi Dennis BillC: been a while, how are things? VanceS: howdy BillC: Hey Vance DennisOl: Good enough, Bill. How's by you? VanceS: Dennis, I was wondering how many were here last week VanceS: Bobbi and I had a short holiday BillC: Busy enough BillC: Where'd you go Vance? VanceS: hiking RickRo: Dennis, I didn't meet Elaine, I don't think... VanceS: in oman DennisOl: Vance: I wasn't here last week. Carla A. had an event scheduled for her online class, and I was involved in it. VanceS: would anyone like to take WiZiQ for a spin? BillC: wow, lots of things going on DennisOl: Rick: Elaine has been a pioneer in Israel in online ed and CMC. RickRo: what's that, Vance? RickRo: nods DennisOl: Sure! I love WiZiQ. BillC: haven't played with it yet, heard alot about it tho RickRo: What does it do? DennisOl: Are you going to open a session now, Vance? VanceS: they've added some features BillC: you got a session going? VanceS: yeah, I'll do that VanceS: it's like DimDim or OpenMeeting DennisOl: Rick: voice, whiteboards, text chat, much more . . . . RickRo: does it have firewall issues? VanceS: not that I'm aware of RickRo: cool BillC: btw, hi Rick, have we met before? DennisOl: Yes, it's definitely cool. BeyzaY joined the room. VanceS: I'll crank up a session VanceS: Hi Beyza RickRo: hi bill, maybe. I'm an old webhead BeyzaY: hİ all, DennisOl: Vance: I have to leave for a few minutes. If you set up a WiZiQ session, please leave a URL, OK? BeyzaY: Ihope everyone is allright VanceS: sure DennisOl: Beyza! Salaam! BillC: what's old mean? I've been in and out for a year or so BeyzaY: merhaba RickRo: many years, white beard {:-{} BeyzaY: is there a wz,q session today BeyzaY: ? BillC: oh, no white beard yet VanceS: I was about to set one up VanceS: wanna play? BeyzaY: sure BillC: i'm go RickRo: is it a game or a venue? BeyzaY: if my computer allows BillC: think the answer is yes DennisOl: Me, too--but I'm going AFK for five minutes or so . . . . so leave a URL, if you start a session, OK? DennisOl leaves temporarily BeyzaY: cya soon Dennis BillC: looking forward to wiziqing VanceS: while I'm starting it, it's here http://www.wiziq.com/ BeyzaY: wiziqing :) VanceS: oh, you hve to register BillC: yeah, leave it to webheads to mangle language, huh? BillC: oh, it a registration thing. . . MoiraH joined the room. VanceS: hey moi VanceS: I mean toi BillC: hey Moira, you gonna join us wiziqing? MoiraH: Hello all MoiraH: Ok but without webcam RickRo: Hi Moira! MoiraH: Hi RickRo: I'm there waiting for directions.... MoiraH: what's the link? BillC: oh, yeah-- web cam, forgot about that one. . . BeyzaY: Hi Moria BeyzaY: moira MoiraH: Hi Beyza MoiraH: where are you Beyza - int the States now? BeyzaY: no VanceS: http://www.wiziq.com/tutorsession/session.aspx?JuX%2bgH%2b2Gbbovg59SBOnn4F%2fShQqHR%2f%2b6a70t%2bMYU5F2nrpqG%2bgCjBDqkuFR5blPOJaTtobCdME%3d BeyzaY: in Turkiye BeyzaY: count me in Vance VanceS: I invited you Beyza because you are in my network VanceS: but anyone can join with that url BeyzaY: thanks Vance MoiraH: Well, now that is rather strange - I have a grey screen with little weird things in the top left hand corner - but I like your photo Vance ;-) MoiraH: I thought you were going to go to the States Beyza, I must have got things mixed up BeyzaY: yes I applied for a scholarship BeyzaY: but I wasnt elligible BillC: can't seem to get the link to work BeyzaY: I still want to go there to do an MA MoiraH: It was probably because the session was not quite open - there now - just closed the first window and tried again VanceS: I can see rick beyza and moira there VanceS: but I'm greyed MoiraH: sorry about not getting the scholarship Beyza - hope it works next time BeyzaY: I hope so BillC: think the java applet for tappedin is not liking me today. link no work BillC: tried the old control-click and it didn't like it either VanceS: can't get in and text chat? BillC: i'm logged in wiziq BillC: lookin for you in the calendar BillC: tried a search on 'vance' VanceS: http://www.wiziq.com/tutorsession/session.aspx?JuX%2bgH%2b2Gbbovg59SBOnn4F%2fShQqHR%2f%2b6a70t%2bMYU5F2nrpqG%2bgCjBDqkuFR5blPOJaTtobCdME%3d TimE joined the room. BillC: think it must be the java vm-- just installed it fresh. reinstalled everything this past week DennisOl: Hi, Tim. BillC: hey TIm DennisOl: I'm at WiZiQ now and will concentrate on it. TimE: Hi, I thought I was going to hear people talking. Do I need to go somewhere else for that? VanceS: yea VanceS: http://www.wiziq.com/tutorsession/session.aspx?JuX%2bgH%2b2Gbbovg59SBOnn4F%2fShQqHR%2f%2b6a70t%2bMYU5F2nrpqG%2bgCjBDqkuFR5blPOJaTtobCdME%3d TimE: Thanx! TimE left the room (signed off). TimE joined the room. BillC: hey Vance, are you signed in to a certain group? i'm looking at web 2.0 people at the moment-- still can't get that link to take me anywhere TimE left the room (signed off). VanceS: have you registered with wiziq? BillC: yup TimE joined the room. TimE left the room (signed off). BeyzaY left the room (signed off). VanceS: really strange VanceS: i started this wiziq session VanceS: plugged in web cam after I launched it BillC: is everyone there? VanceS: yes some of us were there VanceS: I just left VanceS: when I went back i could talk and see the session under a greyed veneer VanceS: but couldn't get a mouse onto the window VanceS: to clear a dialog box VanceS: telling me my web cam was blocked VanceS: though I could SEE it under the veneer VanceS: no mouse access to the screen at all VanceS: I snapped a screenshot VanceS: exited, and am going back now VanceS: http://www.wiziq.com/tutorsession/session.aspx?JuX%2bgH%2b2Gbbovg59SBOnn4F%2fShQqHR%2f%2b6a70t%2bMYU5F2nrpqG%2bgCjBDqkuFR5blPOJaTtobCdME%3d VanceS: restarting VanceS: tried the link above this time VanceS: no web cam this time, not detected VanceS: changed browsers too BillC: you on mac? VanceS: pc VanceS: now rick is in the session VanceS: my web cam is on BillC: hurray, if only i could get there. . . VanceS: now dennis is on camera BillC: am i dense or can you not search members by name in Wiziq? BillC: you don't necessarily need to answer. . . :-) VanceS: multitasking VanceS: and playing ClaireB joined the room. BillC: hey Claire ClaireB: hi guys BillC: how's life? BillC: everyone's at wiziq right now ClaireB: busy busy ClaireB: what's the address? BillC: yeah, i hear you on that one VanceS: http://www.wiziq.com/tutorsession/session.aspx?JuX%2bgH%2b2Gbbovg59SBOnn4F%2fShQqHR%2f%2b6a70t%2bMYU5F2nrpqG%2bgCjBDqkuFR5blPOJaTtobCdME%3d BillC: just sent you a wiziq message, Vance BillC: there are 25 people signed up for wiziq under the topic webheads VanceS: we'er still here BillC: can you send me the link via wiziq mail? VanceS: http://www.wiziq.com/tutorsession/session.aspx?JuX%2bgH%2b2Gbbovg59SBOnn4F%2fShQqHR%2f%2b6a70t%2bMYU5F2nrpqG%2bgCjBDqkuFR5blPOJaTtobCdME%3d BillC: i'm Bill C VanceS: this is the link BillC: for some reason i can't use the link in the java client BillC: have tried everything VanceS: don't know what to suggest BillC: i just sent you a wiziq mail message, can you return it with the link? VanceS: i can try that BillC: oh, you probably can't because you're in a session VanceS: hang on BillC: all right VanceS: done DennisOl left the room (signed off). ClaireB: so are we all going to oovoo? BillC: got the message, thanks. Unfortunately, wiziq doesn't like my Flash plugin ClaireB: oovoo is pc only, so I can't do it ClaireB: my computer with windows is at my office BillC: what about it is pc only? like IE only? RickRo: I crashed out.... ClaireB: says mac version is coming soon VanceS: gonna try oovoo VanceS: http://www.oovoo.com/ BillC: guess oovoo doesn't do linux-- i'll throw the option ClaireB: bill, are you now at oovoo? BillC: yeah, checking out the reqs for the software BillC: they say mac is coming soon BillC: you can't get on either, huh? ClaireB: no i don't have a pc at home VanceS: installing oovoo ClaireB: i have many pcs at work,but not at home BillC: are you running os x? ClaireB: yes BillC: don't they have a version of wine for os x? ClaireB: I don't know about wine. at work, i have parallels on my mac and can run windows programs BillC: that could do it, I'm going to try wine and then virtualizing with qemu if that doesn't go ClaireB: what is wine exactly? VanceS: grape juice? BillC: slightly fermented . . . BillC: no, it's sort of like an emulator ClaireB: huh? ClaireB: like a pc emulator, like virtual pc and parallels? BillC: it just uses the host os to run system calls BillC: sort of, only it isn't virtualizing or emulating per sae ClaireB: sounds interesting ClaireB: for the holidays, i'll bring home my pc laptop so that i can play with more tools BillC: it's nice and light weight ClaireB: kewl ClaireB: have you guys put in your proposals for worldcall? BillC: sounds like parallels could have some potential ClaireB: parallels works great; i use it at work ClaireB: but you need a lot of ram BillC: what's it take? BillC: i'm sort of ram poor ClaireB: i don't know the absolute requirement, but i have 2 gb of ram at work ClaireB: if you have too many apps in memory at the same time with parallels, things get slow BillC: you're doing pretty well-- i'm 1 gb at home KristinaHR joined the room. BillC: yeah, qemu is like that too KristinaHR left the room. BillC: wine is very light weight tho if you can get it to go with the software you're trying to use MoiraH left the room (signed off). BillC: the oovoo client is still downloading-- connection is a bit slow tonight VanceS: getting oovoo going VanceS: great we can try that ClaireB: when did this session start? was it 2 hours ago? VanceS: I'm in BillC: i don't quite know-- got lost with all the north americans and daylight savings time VanceS: i can check, I gave it 90 min VanceS: 25 min left BillC: still downloading ClaireB: yeah, according to the ti calendar, it started at 7 am eastern time ClaireB: i fogot that the time had changed BillC: it's 9 pm here now, what time are you? ClaireB: almost 9 am; it's 8:56 am BillC: cool-- 12 hrs exact ClaireB: you're in thailand, right? BillC: that's easy BillC: yeah, you're in Pennsylvania, right? ClaireB: yes, pittsburgh BillC: you were asking about worldcall-- you involved? ClaireB: we had been planning to attend a conference in waterloo, ontario (near toronto) this weekend, but icy rain was predicted, so we stayed home VanceS: in oovoo now ClaireB: yes, for worldcall I am co-chairing the program committee VanceS: playing aruond BillC: yeah, icy rain doesn't sound fun ClaireB: we would have had to drive along the erie shore, which has really hazardous conditions sometimes BillC: can imagine once the air comes over the great lakes BillC: is there a theme? BillC: for worldcall? ClaireB: anyhow, deadline for worldcall proposals has been extgended to dec ClaireB: yes, it is "CALL bridges the world" ClaireB: conference site: http://www.j-let.org/~wcf/modules/tinyd0/ VanceS: oovoo is nice BillC: will take a look brb ClaireB: general site: http://www.worldcall.org ClaireB: vance, is ooovooo free? ClaireB: no mac version available, but ***some**** webheads don't care about that VanceS: not when we're happily chatting in oovoo ClaireB: how mean VanceS: what abotu this wine that lets you emulate pc ClaireB: have not tried it RickRo: let's not have segregation, now.... VanceS: it'ss ok VanceS: claire adn i are such good friends VanceS: and we got through iVisit ok RickRo: nothing like a little predjudice among buddies... {:-{} BillC: wine just takes os calls and retranslates them into something the host os (like Linux) can understand ClaireB: apparently wine is for linux, from what I am reading BillC: it doesn't quite get everything tho ClaireB: oh come on rick, let me tease vance if I want to ClaireB: we've been doing it for over 25 years BillC: thought i heard they were working on a mac version ClaireB: the oovoo website says that they are also working on a mac version RickRo: claire I want you to really razz him! ClaireB: on the topic of apple, i read yesterday that apple is adding a voice recorder to the iphone DeromoaGst1 joined the room. ClaireB: it's fun to razz him BillC: virtualizing windows. . . RickRo: we had fun with him on the white board BillC: oovoo still downloading RickRo: I want my iphone--for 50 bucks.... BillC: how did you get him to stick on the whiteboard? :-) ClaireB: vance, we just want to razz you becuase you have reached such iconic stature RickRo: held him down with our cursors... ClaireB: i must admit that i loooooooooove my iphone BillC: that'll do it every time. . . RickRo: cut you can't use it overseas.... ClaireB: that is gradually changing tho RickRo: iconic or ironic stature? BillC: yeah, my iphone is a nokia. . . BillC: but i guess they have hacked iphones for sale-- seen 'em RickRo: my phone is hardwired ClaireB: if i go overseas, i can remove the sim card and put it in my motorola razr and use that RickRo: to the wall ClaireB: my motorola razr works overseas-- at least in spain and brazil BillC: how's the multi-press work on that, Rick? RickRo: slowly..... VanceS: we're really loving oovoo VanceS: this is great VanceS: get it now VanceS: NOWWW RickRo: I'll have to try it at home.... ClaireB: can't , i'm on a mac VanceS: join us VanceS -)) RickRo: no can download ClaireB: no can use VanceS: seriousy, it's quite good VanceS: we're taking screenshots BillC: this is like we're at the swimming hole and can't swim. . . RickRo: some people have all the fun, those blonds on oovoo for example ClaireB: rick, are you in jordan now? RickRo: Yep. Just back from a trip to the West Bank and Israel ClaireB: kewl RickRo: I love how everything is so close in this neck of the woods, particularly after Brasil VanceS: i you sure it's not mac compatible VanceS: moire thinks there is a mac download area ClaireB: at my university, we now have an enourmouse arabic program: now 7 instructors! ClaireB: vance, website says mac version coming ClaireB: if there is a mac version, tell me where to get it ClaireB: hi deromoa VanceS: ahh coming soon VanceS: http://www.oovoo.com//download/ RickRo: Arabic is really growing as a target language ClaireB: yes indeed ClaireB: we have great arabic instructors at my univeristy DeromoaGst1: hi, just trying this out...am a neophyte on this site...what to do?? ClaireB: the head of the program is from u of alexandria RickRo: I'm administering a program that sends english teachers here to the US to teach at American universities--in Arabic ClaireB: that is cool, rick ClaireB: dero, this is a weekly meeting of the webheads, and everyone is welcome to join in VanceS: ahlan ClaireB: today the conversation is a little random RickRo: It's a good combo: they have the methodology (hopefully) and can apply to making the Arabic classes more communicative ClaireB: yes, ahlan RickRo: Ahlan wa sahlan! DeromoaGst1: random conversation is good...I'll let you guys continue...thank you for responding. VanceS: you are welcome to join us VanceS: some of us are playing on Oovo0 RickRo: some of us, sigh {:-{} ClaireB: yeah, ****some**** of us. ClaireB: others of us are exclusionary DeromoaGst1: thank you...I'll take a raincheck...need to get back to my assignments for this week. Have a great holiday. RickRo: Have a good one! ClaireB: great holiday to you too VanceS: is it raining there? ClaireB: where/ RickRo: Nothin but sun here.... VanceS: someone took a rain check RickRo: ohhh bad, werry bad! ClaireB: kinda rainy here in pittsburgh; we had snow a few days ago ClaireB: it's currently 1 degree celsius VanceS: beautiful in abu dhabi VanceS: nice out RickRo: Nice here too, but colder than the dhabi no doubt VanceS: are you in the west bank? RickRo: I was, in Ramallah RickRo: Back at the home base in amman now VanceS: nice VanceS: have you been to aqaba? DeromoaGst1 left the room (signed off). VanceS: great snorkeling there ClaireB: i would loooooove to go to jordan RickRo: I was snorkeling there over Thanksgiving RickRo: talk about fish and coral--right off shore too VanceS: good place to learn diving too VanceS: easy, shore diving VanceS: any depth RickRo: I hear it's much cheaper that in Egypt DeromoaGst2 joined the room. VanceS: how long will you be there? RickRo: I saw the coolest lion fish (are they venomous?) I have two years, maybe 3 VanceS: lion fish are quite venemous ClaireB: i never heard of a lion fish VanceS: they have some stunning stonefish there as well RickRo: Good thing I kept my distance. I knew stone fish are bad news too RickRo: to step on anyway.... ClaireB: ah, just looked up lionfish on wikipedia VanceS: pretty MoiraH joined the room. VanceS: hi moira ClaireB: wb moira RickRo: he was just hanging in one place, right above some coral of the same color MoiraH: Back again - excellent tool - I think I'll pass this striaght on to my son and his friends :-) MoiraH: straight RickRo: some people have all the fun.... ClaireB: Lionfish have venomous spines that are deadly to their prey, but not to humans. If a spine punctures you, you will experience severe pain and possible headaches and vomiting. ClaireB: (the above from wikipedia) RickRo: sound like venom to me! VanceS: i've never known anyone to be bothered by them MoiraH: yes - it was really fun RIck. Let's hope they get the Mac version going quickly 'cos it's really cool VanceS: and we see them al thetime VanceS: they are very common on reefs RickRo: how about large fish? biggest I saw was a 3 footer ClaireB: moira, i hope so too because i am feeling excluded (not that vance cares.....) MoiraH: So after all that excitement, I'm going to love you and leave you all and get back to my boring marking ... VanceS: poor claire ClaireB: we will miss you, moira RickRo: see you moira! MoiraH: lol - I'm sure he does - it's much more playing in a big group ;-) VanceS: I'm going to disappear too ClaireB: yeah me too -- real life is intervening MoiraH: much more fun ClaireB: good bye guys RickRo: Me too, too much work for so much fun ClaireB left the room (signed off). VanceS: nice chatting with you all MoiraH: Bye to you all! RickRo: Ciao for now! MoiraH left the room (signed off). VanceS: keep in touch rick esp as you're just up the road BillC: hey, you're all leaving. . . RickRo: Let's cross paths--Maybe TESOL Arabia? VanceS: if you're down this way ahlan ila abu dhabi VanceS: maybe VanceS: I'll be there RickRo: shukran! VanceS: presentaton accepted VanceS: seriously if you want to kick back with us, beiti beitak RickRo: I don' know if I'll have the time.... Hope to make it though. Shukran. huna kamen VanceS: hey Bill BillC: yeah, vance DeromoaGst2 left the room (signed off). VanceS: shukran ya rick BillC: translation? RickRo: Mass'alama! VanceS: kabkoon VanceS: that was the translation VanceS: I invited him to my house RickRo: {:-{} BillC: oh, ok. Kabkoon, kuhn rick VanceS: he me to his BillC: naa ja sanook maak, na? RickRo: fii hakika! RickRo: mefi muskila RickRo: ja snaook maak VanceS: ja sanook?? BillC: all right, you're getting this Thai thing, now i gotta get the arabic thing BillC: sanook is fun RickRo: sanook quoiis BillC: a word you definitely need to know when you're in Thailand VanceS: sanook? hmmm VanceS: not familiar with that one RickRo: sounds like trouble, that sanook! VanceS: inbas't VanceS: have fun BillC: yeah, well guess sanook has different translations for different folks. . RickRo: I have to run--see you! BillC: so inbas't is 'fun' then? RickRo: Waves! BillC: see you Rick, been sanook VanceS: inbas't is 'have fun' imperative VanceS: not sure how to derive 'fun RickRo: been sanook! inbas't kameen! VanceS: maybe mubasit RickRo left the room (signed off). BillC: alright imperative adds a little more in Thai VanceS: anyway, enjoy chiang mai BillC: ok, you going? VanceS: yeah VanceS: time to go home BillC: well thanks for the fun tonight BillC: hope to have the virtualization and other stufff BillC: going next time VanceS: ok hope you have better success with oovoo VanceS: this one is fun BillC: will give it a try BillC: have a good week VanceS: ok, cheers VanceS left the room (signed off). 2007.12.09 06:37:46 Signoff